who wrote cold rain and snow

And this version is *brutal* folks. Search for: Ad-Free Bluegrass Lyrics, still! 1927, photographer unknown, And, lo and behold, both lines are present in Dock Boggs‘ ‘white blues’ recording “Sugar Baby“! (Wait, maybe his name was Frank.). Why not? For now, shovels at the ready…. The song is not British, and the blues influence / interaction is a murky one to consider – so, can we pin anything else down about this song in America? New snow accumulation of less than one inch possible. (G)I married me a (F)wife, she give me (G)trouble all my life Left me out in the (F)cold rain and (G)snow. Poet: Douglas Florian. Add to playlist. Hey, thanks for wandering over! Honestly, I don’t think you will either. Concert Poster, The Folklore Center, ca. If you'd like to buy us a sandwich, however, we would be grateful. All those years ago, when I discovered that the Dead didn’t write the song, I began to wonder who did. (A long time ago to remember even if he did pass it on, but hey, I gotta ask!). I first heard our subject ballad for the week from the same source I’m sure the majority of people who know it today did – the Grateful Dead. When the wind blows and the rain feels cold With a head full of snow With a head full of snow In the window there's a face you know Don't the night pass slow? TIL Cold Rain and Snow was written in the 1870's about a man who murdered his wife in Madison County, North Carolina. Even Cecil Sharp said so! I think it has something to do with why this song was written in the first place. Rain And Snow Lyrics: Well, I married me a wife / She gave me trouble all my life / Left me out in the cold rain and snow / Rain and snow / Left me out in that cold rain and snow / Yeah she came down It’s certainly do-able, as we saw such information in our studies of both “Omie Wise” and “Tom Dooley”. But tracing the ballad back from the Grateful Dead, and looking at its incarnations today, might give us a little bit of a rattle – particularly when we find that many female artists play the *hell* out of this seemingly misogynistic ballad today. To make a long story short, I think we can know more or less, and the answer puts us here in our comfortably uncomfortable American murder ballad place. Such may very well be true for all of these ‘connected’ songs. No one knows who wrote the song. View credits, reviews, tracks and shop for the 2001 CD release of "The Golden Road (1965-1973)" on Discogs. Ok. I’m no professional researcher, but I haven’t found it yet. Thursday: Snow likely, mainly before 3 p.m. Cloudy, with a … So, we’ve seen no evidence that this song in the form we know it was ever collected outside of that one place. So, if you want, grab a shovel and come along. Grateful Dead - Cold Rain and Snow Lyrics. Consider for one that the ballad is widely covered today, but that these covers admit of little lyric or melodic variation. Indeed though, there is evidence that strongly suggests this song is essentially American – and has its origin in western North Carolina after the Civil War. But I find no evidence of that song in Britain, or even outside of the Appalachians – and it is probably not as old even as “Rain and Snow.”  At best they may have been contemporary, perhaps even relying on some of the same artistic inspiration. One of the people I visited with was Obray Ramsey, who taught me how to play his version of Cold Rain and Snow on the banjo. “I trembled to my knees with cold fear.”. She came down the stairs, combing back her long yellow hair And her cheeks were as red as a rose As a ro..ose ooh oh lord And her cheeks were as red as a rose 3. Cyndi Lauper came up with the title "Time After Time" when she saw it in TV Guide magazine. The sound of strangers sending nothing to my mind Just another mad mad day on the road I … The first line is indeed “I married me a wife, she’s the plague of my life.”  But the next line “I wish I was single again” puts it squarely in the male song group of “I Wish I Were Single Again“. See, it really is British! The last day of April will close out with some unsettled weather in the Bay State, with light snow, strong winds and rain forecast in parts of Massachusetts. We pursue conversation on the power of music to create meaning and beauty in response to the toughest of times. Jerry Garcia mixed up the order of the verses, but this is the basic structure: (1) Phil Lesh sometimes sings "... auburn hair" with Phil & Friends. But I like long stories long. 1962. Anyway, you people who are truly folked up already know what’s coming. If you check out the liner notes written by John Cohen to the compilation album that includes this track, you’ll find the answer that’s the end of our line. Check out Pentangle’s version before I argue, and note that we’ll come back to it later this week. Overnight snow likely, mainly after 1 a.m. Cloudy, with a low around 21. It had been part of their repertoire since their start in 1965, and by the time I was going to Dead shows … → read more, Anything in here will be replaced on browsers that support the canvas element, Browse news and reviews topics using the "cloud" above or review an, The Hurdy Gurdy Gears Up for Its 38th Season, 2018 NERFA Formal Showcase Artists Announced, Pete Seeger Statue Unveiled in Teaneck, New Jersey, 2018 Old Songs Festival – A Timely Gathering. That means that connections to songs like “Payday” and “Sugar Baby” really do matter, though perhaps not in that ‘direct ancestor’ sort of way that we often talk about with British ballads. If someone can show me otherwise, I’ll be grateful. It’s just too real and awful to be otherwise. In the early 1960’s, I played a lot with Jerry Garcia, old-time music and bluegrass. She left me out in the cold rain and snow. So, we can ask as we always do why someone might turn the story of a true, gruesome murder into a ballad like this. Check out Dillard Chandler‘s “Cold Rain and Snow”, recorded in the field in 1965, the same year the Grateful Dead began playing in San Francisco, and released later in a compilation of music from him and his neighbors. I don’t know that I’ll have a solid answer for you as to why women love to sing this ballad and do it so well, but I think I’ve got an idea. Rain and sno (F)ooow, ooh (G) oh lord Left me out in the (F)cold rain and (G)snow 2. If they have, I haven’t seen the results online. We even get to see the killer’s reaction after he does the deed. Check out Dillard Chandler ‘s “Cold Rain and Snow”, recorded in the field in 1965, the same year the Grateful Dead began playing in San Francisco, and released later in a compilation of music from him and his neighbors. Don't the nights pass slow? Vince Welnick. Look at winter. They give him 99 long years for the killing of his wife…  I heard the song from her in 1911. As I hinted at in relation to Dock Boggs, the coal country of Appalachia at the turn of the 20th century received an influx of African-American (among other) immigrants to work the mines and in related industries. While Sharp’s book is certainly full of ballads we can easily trace back to Britain, he includes “Rain and Snow” with no evidence of its origin, and only a sliver of a verse. If you don’t have one, the awful man at the heart of this ballad said you can take his – though it’s slightly used. Now, hippies taking the violence out of a murder ballad, and otherwise implicitly challenging the institution of marriage, is nothing earth-shattering – even if they do it quite well. But I’ll take that point up in a later post this week, where we’ll see quite a few contemporary covers of this little dagger of a song. Dillard Chandler was born, lived, and died in… wait for it…  Madison County, North Carolina. Sheila Kay Adams, a master balladeer and storyteller, still makes her home there on her beloved Eskey’s Ridge and keeps the tradition alive. Dock Boggs, ca. This performance, while truly outstanding, proves nothing of the ballad’s origins. The only evidence he articulates for this claim is the existence of the British folk band Pentangle‘s version. • Del Mccoury Band Sheet music. It’s an interesting twist, in that it means the initial transmission of the ballad to the West Coast was in the old way thanks to your road trip and musician’s ear. Though this isn’t Ramsey’s source, he’s undeniably singing “you drove me out in the rain and snow.”  That’s more than just coincidence, or so I believe. We saw one example already in an earlier post of mine, which opened one of the best shows I saw after Brent Mydland died in 1990, and that most certainly illustrates my observation. It’s old news to you, but I’m not sure how well our younger folks know this yet. “Rain and Snow” – Obray Ramsey (Spotify)       Lyrics for Obray Ramsey’s version. Though not an official creed or motto of the United States Postal Service, the Postal Service acknowledges it as an informal motto along with Charles W. Eliot 's poem "The Letter". This certainly makes sense, as Ramsey’s recording of the song was, as far as I can tell, the first commercially available. Don’t get me wrong – the story is engaging and the lyrics are as keen as the little pen knife the brown girl used to do in Fair Ellender – by “downhill” I mean how this sad tale ends. “I ain’t got no use for your red apple juice” is a line I have yet to see in a traditional British ballad. Thanks for clearing out the clutter and finding that some of these old songs aren’t necessarily as old as some would make them out to be. Del Mccoury Band. So far in this blog we’ve seen men killing women for all sorts of awful reasons, but here we have a murder simply because the man feels ill-treated. As well, Ramsey’s folk pedigree as one of the old-time singers of Madison County, North Carolina  (perhaps the place where the British ballads in their authentic context survived the best in America, where the waters of the Big Laurel, Little Laurel and Shelton Laurel rivers run) presumably plays implicitly into Jackson’s claim of an old English origin for the song. I was surprised to hear the murder in the lyrics, since they aren’t in the familiar Grateful Dead versions. Thanks for sticking with me this long, and I hope you join me later this week if you’re up for it. Grayson and Henry Whitter, ca. 1920’s, photographer unknown. Now, several links have been suggested to songs like “The Sporting Bachelors” (here’s Grayson and Whittier’s track, and lyrics) and the “Red Apple Juice”/”Sugar Baby” group of songs cited above. Thursday looks cold … The Grateful Dead debuted in 1965 with this as one of their primal songs, and the musicians were deeply connected to folk music and certainly would have heard Ramsey’s album, popular as it was in such circles. While it may seem counter-intuitive to those of us who deeply feel the resonance of murder ballads, the Dead’s non-lethal interpretation worked for them for thirty years – it was the only song in their repertoire that they performed consistently during their entire career. Peter Rowan - Tony Rice Cold Rain and Snow by Unknown artist chords - Yalp. The musical tradition of that part of the country was and is one of our national treasures. John Perry Barlow. I just wandered over here from a google search after hearing the Obray Ramsey version of the song for the first time. The Doobie Brothers' swampy #1 hit "Black Water" is about the Mississippi River, evoking the rafting adventures Mark Twain and Huckleberry Finn. Here we’ve got motive, opportunity, and a horrible method. He learned “Rain and Snow” in the mountains where it was born. (Here’s the female group info as well, and a clip to hear – there is murder in neither group of this song.). Outside of the Bible, in the Apocrypha, we find three references to snow where snow is a bad thing. Cold front to bring snow, rain and windy weather to parts of Australia’s east coast. In my second post later this week, I will spend most of my time looking at contemporary recordings of this ballad, and in doing so will contrast those that are in men’s and women’s voices. She was in her 50’s at that time. Of all the recordings I can find, 40 some so far in my Spotify playlist, there is actually one that is a bona fide folk performance by a traditional Appalachian ballad singer. Play Cold Rain & Snow Tabs using simple video lessons Do you see it? Given all this, and the fact that Pentangle are also playing the *sitar* as one of the key instruments in the performance and the song is obviously not from India, I think it much more likely that the experimental musicians that made up that band in 1971 were fusing multiple cross-cultural elements, rather than being perseverators with regards to some ancient British ballad. If anything, I would hazard a guess that Chandler, a traditional singer, by the early 1960’s may have fixed other compatible lyrics on to this older ballad – perhaps more likely, that he learned it from someone who had done so, or maybe even that such lines were originally part of both songs, being cooked up in the same post Civil War Appalachian ballad stew. In 1963, I did a road-trip pilgrimage through the South to meet some of the older old-time musicians before they died. It is, however, not unknown in American ‘white blues’ and likely has its origin in the African-American tradition. More convincingly, while Pentangle’s lyrics aren’t *precisely* those of either, where they don’t follow those versions they add lyrics that are quite clearly American. “Cold Rain and Snow” – Dillard Chandler (Spotify)      Lyrics for Chandler’s version, Of all we’ll hear this week, none is as chilling as Chandler’s version. And, it turns out, the little bit of information he does include really gets us back to square one – and in this case as you’ll see below, square one is certainly the home of The Three Laurels – Madison County. This is the common law of life. To my knowledge no one has done so. Pentangle cut their cover in 1971, well after Ramsey and the Dead both brought the song to modern audiences. As for Sharp, “Swannanoa Tunnel” also wound up in the same book, and could also only be attributed to very diffuse and indirect English sources (a fragment of a tune, or something like that). Lyrics to 'Cold Rain & Snow' by Grateful Dead. As well, the lyric where he sees his wife “in the shade counting every dime I’ve made” suggests America as well, at least as far as a reference to currency can take us. What that inspiration might have been is beyond my ability to research at the moment, but I do have a gut feeling about it. We’ve seen that Pentangle likes to pick up American balladry and bring it back to a British audience (with the world music inflection that you note). But that’s all putting the cart before the horse. So if you do as well, I promise I’ll try to keep you entertained. In our conversations over the years, Jerry always agreed that he learned the song from me. “Sporting Bachelors” seems to come the closest lyrically to “Rain and Snow” – there are undeniable similarities. Having chords in the song determines its feel, and also constrains the melody more than singing it unaccompanied would. As mentioned above, Obray Ramsey was from Madison County, North Carolina. Last month, in one week, the elements raged. Cover of the Deads "Cold Rain and Snow" ripped off web cam 10/9/09 on my 11 string Alvarez. Has anybody gone through the court records and found out who the murderer and victim were? This suggests a ‘bottleneck’ of source material, perhaps even only one direct ancestor, rather than the usual (and sometimes overwhelming) variety we see with true British ballads. That’s all I know, except they didn’t hang the man.”. In another lifetime’s career, I’d spend a year charting it all out! Posted in Murder Ballad Monday | Tagged Berzilla Wallin, Byard Ray, Cecil Sharp, Cold Rain and Snow, Dillard Chandler, Dock Boggs, G.B. There’s a bit more. Who are you, Mr. Snow is like a honey badger—it just sits there looking at you, daring you. 1. It did happen in her girlhood… when she was a young girl…  She lived right here around in Madison County. Now, I didn’t embark on this week’s treatment of the ballad with the Grateful Dead in mind, other than to cite them as the origin of my quest. Jerry Garcia mixed up the order of the verses, but this is the basic structure: Well she's coming down the stairs, combing back her yellow hair And I … Patrick, Obray said he learned it from someone who sang it unaccompanied (no instrument), and he added the banjo part which he made up himself. The storm will pull northeast on Monday, affecting such places as Memphis, Louisville and Cincinnati with snow and Jackson, Miss., Nashville and Lexington, Ky., with freezing rain and ice. Cold Rain And Snow Lyrics: Traditional Music: Traditional One of the songs played from the earliest days of the Grateful Dead. Some versions make it more gruesome than others. In the liner notes for The Music Never Stopped: The Roots of the Grateful Dead, Blair Jackson speculates that the inspiration for the Dead’s version of the ballad was Obray Ramsey‘s cover on his 1963 album Obray Ramsey Sings Folksongs From the Three Laurels. They performed “Omie Wise” and opted for the American “House Carpenter” variant of Child 243. Cohen quotes Berzilla Wallin (who lovingly taught Sheila Kay Adams many of the old ballads) on its source. For us, though, we need the recording. Latest Additions. I did uncover some (if not *the*) truth though, if there is such a thing in folk music. Great post, Pat! Most versions, but notably not the Grateful Dead’s, make explicit that the man kills his wife. He just can’t take it any more, and so this weak man finds the strength to solve his problem with murder. The words "Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed rounds" have long been associated with the American postal worker. “Well, I learned it from an old lady which says she was at the hanging of – which was supposed to be the hanging, but they didn’t hang him. Radar forecast from 2 … As well, rhyming ‘wife’ with ‘life’ isn’t a literary stretch, and one would expect to see it often in totally unrelated songs. Still, just because Pentangle’s version doesn’t reveal British origins does not mean they aren’t there. If we let go of the need to find a direct ancestor of one for the other, such songs as these in relation to our target “Rain and Snow” open up some interesting possibilities. If you can’t wait, or came here for a quick Google answer to the question, skip down to Berzilla Wallin’s quote just above the Coda. One foot in the old world and one in the new, I suppose. This assumes Obray was accurate in his statement. Rain And Snow Chords by Del Mccoury Band. And it’s impossible to believe that Dock Boggs would have been the only white kid in Appalachia interested in black music. Lyrics powered by LyricFind Now you’re tempted to say “Aha! “Sung by Mrs. Tom Rice at Big Laurel, N.C. Aug. 18, 1916.”  Folks, Big Laurel, North Carolina is in Madison County! I’m not surprised that Pentangle and Cecil Sharp both turn out to be red herrings of a sort. After the opening lyric, every version of the song I know includes some close approximation of the line that gives it its title – “She ran me out in the cold rain and snow.”   The rest of the song usually goes on to list the unnamed man’s additional grievances; and though the list is relatively short, the resolution is extreme. For example, Josiah Combs collected “The Married Man” in Knott County, Kentucky and published it in Folk-Songs du Midi des Etats-Unis in 1925. As smoke curls from rooftops. “But,” you might say, “those lyrics are similar in certain places to “Sporting Bachelor.”  Doesn’t that suggest that they both have a common ancestor?”  Perhaps, but I don’t think so in this case. Some even look to songs like “Payday” (here’s Mississippi John Hurt’s version, and lyrics) because of the common theme and similarity of certain lyrics. For example, check out Shorty Bob Parker’s blues, “Rain and Snow”, from the late 1930’s. By sun and cold, by rain and snow, In trees and men good timbers grow. I can’t deliver brevity, as the roots of this chillingly violent little ballad are deep in earth that took awhile to dig. Learn to play guitar by chord / tabs using chord diagrams, transpose the key, watch video lessons and much more. COLD RAIN AND SNOW CHORDS by Grateful Dead @ Ultimate-Guitar.Com. A cold … Those building blocks would likely show up in all sorts of songs composed in the same decades. It happened here between Marshall and Burnsville; that’s where they did their hanging at that time – at Burnsville, North Carolina. Check out Sharp’s entry for the ballad. Amateur Murder Ballad Blogger, to argue with a legend in the field?”  (Sorry, I’m having a Mudcat moment.). When Cecil Sharp came through during World War I to find British ballads in Appalachia, many of the folks singing for him were Chandler’s immediate family. Here’s a fascinating interview with Sheila where she talks about Madison County’s musical tradition and mentions Byard. Cold Rain and Snow Lyrics as written by William Kreutzmann Jerome J. Garcia. Bluegrasslyrics.com remains an ad-free and revenue-free site in every respect. (Dock was influenced powerfully as a boy by African-American music in the Appalachian coal country a full century ago.). A true story then. (I’ll include the other examples from my original post as well below it. Well, I married me a wife, she's been trouble all my life Run me out in the cold rain and snow, rain and snow Run me out in the cold rain and snow Well, she went up to her room where she sang her faithful tune That rain should clear out after Monday morning, though, for a … Cold Rain & Snow Tabs - Grateful Dead, Version (1). It may have been more dynamic than that, more about integration than perseveration. ), “Cold Rain and Snow”  (1) Studio version -1967   (2) Live – 9/28/76   Lyrics as sung by the Dead. … G.B. 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